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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2020 18:02:28 GMT -5
Still it is impressive
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Post by King Kodiak on Jan 24, 2020 17:04:54 GMT -5
I have seen all these accounts before. Thanks for posting them. Walruses are honestly difficult prey for polar bears. They might be less mobile than large bovines but have better defenses (thicker hide, neck which is similar in size to body, and blubber to protect their vital organs). The account of the polar bear killing a walrus with 'one blow' must be done after many repeated blows on the head. I think you just hit it right on the money. Its many repeated blows yes. Basically no animal can kill a walrus with one blow. Thats way exaggerated. But its still very impressive yes.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 17:06:34 GMT -5
"I think you just hit it right on the money" What does that mean
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Post by King Kodiak on Jan 24, 2020 17:10:00 GMT -5
"I think you just hit it right on the money" What does that mean It means that what he said is perfect.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 16:34:13 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Feb 10, 2020 17:04:36 GMT -5
A grizzly can and will excavate earth, even in near concrete-hard ground, entangled with rocks and tough roots, like a piece of heavy machinery. Biologists who witness this are often amazed at the raw power - almost supernatural upper-body strength of a boar grizzly. This leaves no lingering doubts as to the power in the bear's neck, shoulders, and arms. His paws have been proven to be designed in such a way as to absorb impacts, thus when a big brown bear slams the hood of a truck with a paw-strike, the bear's paw is undamaged. I do not believe that a bear considers his paw as a killing weapon. When bear fights bear, there are usually multiple paw swipes delivered; like a fighter giving jabs not meant to end a fight. A bear's body ( skull, neck, shoulders, and all ) is designed to absorb impact. A paw strike hardly noticed by another grizzly might disable a lion. I think it possible for a well-aimed paw strike to kill a bull, a horse, or a moose. I think, however, that this happens more by chance than as a plan of the bear. His main killing weapons are his teeth and jaws.
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Post by brobear on Feb 15, 2020 5:41:31 GMT -5
The brown bear appears first of all as a powerful and massive creature that could reach a ( bipedal ) height of eight or nine feet and a weight of 600, 800, or even 1,000 pounds. Those are, of course, record figures, at least in Europe, but it is likely that ancient and midieval bears were heavier than their present-day descendants. The bear is fattest in late autumn, when it begins hibernation. Its heavy look and clumsy appearance are accentuated by a short, thick neck of extraordinary strength and a very broad chest. Neck and chest contrast with a relatively small head and modest hindquarters. The animal's primary strength is located in the muscles of the neck, shoulders, arms, and chest. It resembles a stocky wrestler with a disproportionately large upper body. This is confirmed by anatomic analysis of its musculature, which reveals very powerful brachial, dorsal, and pectoral muscles. They are what enable the bear to carry or haul loads heavier than itself, to move gigantic blocks of stone, to break huge tree trunks, to kill a man or a large animal - cattle or wild game - with a single blow of a paw.
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Post by brobear on Feb 19, 2020 16:33:41 GMT -5
Grizzly Claws are designed for digging but make great weapons.
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Post by brobear on Feb 28, 2020 17:55:24 GMT -5
Posted by Bold Champ ( lion enthusiast )... And, i`m not a keyboard warrior. I train Martial arts and for arm wrestling. I have probably broken some records, especially in speed and lifting. I`m far from a weakling, bro. I can prove it....also. Being a data scientist doesn`t make you more well educated. I take the time to study well educated documents, and i could say i`m pretty intelligent. I have done a lot of things, unofficially, like measuring the speeds of my piranha, from 2-3 inches long, going 60 - 80 cm per sec. Used video to clock paw speeds of lions and tigers, that of a bear, etc. The faster speed.....so far, came from the bear, in striking. 25 feet per sec. I`m not a scientist, but i did time it, and can show how i did it. The same thing the scientists do, but in a simpler way. No sophisticated software needed. www.tapatalk.com/groups/wildanimalwarfare/tiger-the-coward-animal-t90-s320.html#p10692
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Post by King Kodiak on Feb 28, 2020 18:38:31 GMT -5
Yeah, TheGreenArtos had already posted that on page 6 of this thread:
domainofthebears.proboards.com/post/18282/thread
So what do you think about this brobear? Boldchamp is a lion fanatic and he says that? Incredible. He says he clocked the speeds using video.
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Post by brobear on Feb 29, 2020 2:39:41 GMT -5
Yeah, TheGreenArtos had already posted that on page 6 of this thread:
domainofthebears.proboards.com/post/18282/thread
So what do you think about this brobear? Boldchamp is a lion fanatic and he says that? Incredible. He says he clocked the speeds using video. The Bold One would not lie in favor of the bear. I traded punches with this guy for years. This sounds like something he would actually do. I have to hand it to Bold; he could manage to maintain his composure; not throw a tantrum like the Mountain Kid. Yes; I believe this.
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Post by brobear on Feb 29, 2020 4:22:14 GMT -5
Just in case you think you don't need bear spray. This griz was captured near Lincoln and relocated to Glacier National Park...enjoy your spring hike!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 4:31:56 GMT -5
Show that to all of those bear haters who say bears never use paw strikes
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Post by brobear on Feb 29, 2020 4:52:03 GMT -5
Show that to all of those bear haters who say bears never use paw strikes In most ( not all ) bear vs bear fights, you will see multiple paw-strikes. Problem is, a bear ( especially a grizzly ) is built to absorb impact. A grizzly can withstand a hit to his skull with no visible damage that might break the neck or crack the skull of a lion or a tiger. Only his dog-like muzzle is vulnerable to a powerful strike; but bears are instinctively protective of their valuable nose.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 6:12:10 GMT -5
I believe a grizzly can decapitate a moose
But does anyone have links to the account
This one
And then I was absolutely flabbergasted and discombobulated to see, a great up-splash of blood, and the moose's head detached from the body and landed not three feet from where I was hidden, its eyes staring right at me. The bear sat down immediately and began drinking from the stream as if nothing had happened, as if it were a regular occurrence to go decapitating the head of a moose. Never in my life will I forget the power of the grizzly bear
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Post by brobear on Feb 29, 2020 6:19:32 GMT -5
shaggygod.proboards.com/thread/557/general Posted by grrraaahhh: The following interesting extract account I found awhile ago but I have not been able to find out anything more about the original source information. Maybe someone in the visiting audience is familiar with the following material: The claim that an adult grizzly bear can decapitate a moose with one swipe of its paw is an established fact. The first reported event took place in Alaska in 1895 by a Russian miner who was hiking through the wilderness. According to his account, he witnessed a moose drinking from a stream when a Grizzly bear approached from the other side. Mooses are very territorial, and they are especially known to attack anything they perceive to be a threat to their water source. The moose charged full speed across the stream, and just as it neared the bear, the bear stood up and with a quick motion swiped the moose in the side of the face. The mooses head became decapitated and flew a distance of fifteen to twenty feet. ...and quick as a spark on a fire the grizzly bear stood up and swatted the moose in the face. Why it was if you or I would swat a fly, but the impact seemed to me as loud as a gunshot. And then I was absolutely flabbergasted and discombobulated to see, a great upsplash of blood, and the mooses head detatched from the body and landed not three feet from where I was hidden, its eyes staring right at me. The bear sat down immediately and began drinking from the stream as if nothing had happened, as if it were a regular occurance to go decapitating the head of a moose. Never in my life will I forget the power of the grizzly bear... The report was met by skepticism until noted American biologist Dr. Jacob MacDonaldson observed a similar event in the spring of 1954. MacDonaldson was observing the movements of a Grizzly bear when a moose walked into the same space. The grizzly bear perceived the moose to be a threat to the cubs, and roared to scare it off. But the moose began to graze. The bear then charged the moose, but again the moose did not move. The bear then lumbered over to the moose, and with a powerful swipe of its paw, decapitated the moose. Dr. MacDonaldson later retreived the moose head an autopsy found damage consistent with that of decapitation by impact. Later studies contribute the phenomenon to both the relative weakness of a mooses upper neck and the power of a grizzly bears arm. Although a grizzly bear is very powerful, it does not have the strength to decapitate most creatures larger than a man. A moose however is peculiar in the structure of its upperneck, which is weak, and any force that puts a significant and sudden pressure on the weakest point of the neck will inevitably cause decapitation. Since 1895, there have been 15 reported cases of Moose decapitation by Grizzly, and most scientists theorize it is a natural, albeit somewhat rare, event.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 6:22:55 GMT -5
How did grrraaahhh find it
I am asking the link to the absolute original account
Is it a book newspaper or eyewitness account
I want a link to that
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 6:23:51 GMT -5
A grizzly cracked the spine of a buffalo cow with one hit books.google.it/books?id=xSbrXXh0lWMC&pg=PA229&dq=His+feet+were+eight+inches+across,+and+were+armed+with+claws+five+inches+long.+He+was+caught+in+the+act+of+killing+a+buffalo+cow,+and+had+just+cracked+her+spine+when+he+received+the+first+shot.+When+stretched,+his+hide+was+as+large+as+a+buffalo+bull&hl=it&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi6k8-u0vbnAhXCcJoKHXsjC3oQ6AEIKTAA#v=onepage&q=His%20feet%20were%20eight%20inches%20across%2C%20and%20were%20armed%20with%20claws%20five%20inches%20long.%20He%20was%20caught%20in%20the%20act%20of%20killing%20a%20buffalo%20cow%2C%20and%20had%20just%20cracked%20her%20spine%20when%20he%20received%20the%20first%20shot.%20When%20stretched%2C%20his%20hide%20was%20as%20large%20as%20a%20buffalo%20bull&f=false
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Post by King Kodiak on Feb 29, 2020 8:19:13 GMT -5
Yeah, TheGreenArtos had already posted that on page 6 of this thread:
domainofthebears.proboards.com/post/18282/thread
So what do you think about this brobear? Boldchamp is a lion fanatic and he says that? Incredible. He says he clocked the speeds using video. The Bold One would not lie in favor of the bear. I traded punches with this guy for years. This sounds like something he would actually do. I have to hand it to Bold; he could manage to maintain his composure; not throw a tantrum like the Mountain Kid. Yes; I believe this. Yeah, i dont consider Bold a fanboy as he favours larger bears over lions. So if he is saying bears strike faster than lions, than it must be true, or at least that is his conclusion.
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Post by King Kodiak on Feb 29, 2020 8:30:03 GMT -5
How did grrraaahhh find it I am asking the link to the absolute original account Is it a book newspaper or eyewitness account I want a link to that We had the link, but somehow its been lost. I just searched and the website is not there. It was just like a journal or a magazine. It was a Russian eyewitness. But its very hard to believe, a very hard bear swipe can maybe break a spine or a skull, but just 1 swipe wont decapitate a moose, that is very far fetched.
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