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Giraffe
Aug 18, 2020 8:12:36 GMT -5
Post by brobear on Aug 18, 2020 8:12:36 GMT -5
Is it possible for a 600+ pound brown bear to kill a giraffe? LIFESPAN Healthy giraffes live about 25 years in the wild.
HEIGHT Males reach 15-20 feet and females 12-17 feet.
WEIGHT Males range between 1,765-4,255 pounds and females 1,215-2,600 pounds.
DIET Giraffes browse (take leaves from trees and bushes), they cannot graze (taking grass from the ground).
STATUS Vulnerable.
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Post by King Kodiak on Aug 18, 2020 10:32:38 GMT -5
Yes its possible, but it only has a 20% chance. You will beed the largest of brown bears 1500 + lbs. It is a possibility the bear can attack the legs of the giraffe and bring it down. This if it can avoid the kicks. Its a long shot, but still possible.
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Giraffe
Aug 18, 2020 19:08:07 GMT -5
Post by tom on Aug 18, 2020 19:08:07 GMT -5
Yes its possible, but it only has a 20% chance. You will beed the largest of brown bears 1500 + lbs. It is a possibility the bear can attack the legs of the giraffe and bring it down. This if it can avoid the kicks. Its a long shot, but still possible. +1
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Post by tom on Aug 18, 2020 19:16:57 GMT -5
Maybe we could talk undertaker into a comparison photo using the Giraffe in Brobears post and a 1500 LB. 10 ft. tall Kodiak standing alongside on his hind legs for a better assessment. We know how hard it is for Lions to take down an adult Giraffe and it's normally multiple Lions required to do so. Success rate for Lions ?? Many a Lion has paid dearly from the deadly kick of a Giraffe. I think King Kodiak's 20% success rate would be a little generous for me. But that's just me...
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Giraffe
Aug 18, 2020 23:00:45 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Aug 18, 2020 23:00:45 GMT -5
I can't even picture a realistic fight in my mind. Lions can leap upon the giraffe's back. A brown bear can leap no further or higher than a normal healthy man. So what would the bear do; tackle one long leg? Lions will sometimes herd a giraffe into rough ground, perhaps rocky ground, where the giraffe had poor footing. Even then, as Tom said, lions have a hard time with a giraffe. In the topic; "Who Can Defeat a Grizzly" Reply #65 I gave the Giraffe 9 out of 10. ( pure speculation ).
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Post by King Kodiak on Aug 18, 2020 23:35:10 GMT -5
If you think the bear has less than a 20% chance or even 0% chance, i would not argue on behalf of the bear this time. You are not far from the truth. Taking percentages away, i just dont think is totally impossible, thats all.
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Post by theundertaker45 on Aug 19, 2020 4:30:52 GMT -5
I actually think that a 1500lbs Kodiak bear has a higher than 50% chance of defeating a giraffe in a face-off. The giraffe's only weapons are its slender legs and once the Kodiak gets a good hold in, he eventually has an excellent chance of delivering a bonebreaking attack which would eventually lead us to a falling giraffe; that's just my opinion.
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Giraffe
Aug 19, 2020 6:53:52 GMT -5
Post by brobear on Aug 19, 2020 6:53:52 GMT -5
Another thought; a kick from the giraffe that would kill a lion might either change the bear's mind about attacking this "really tall moose" or enrage him.
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Post by King Kodiak on Aug 19, 2020 7:02:55 GMT -5
And i thought i was being very generous as Tom said with my 20% possibility, but Taker has it at more than 50%, wow. Well if Taker thinks that, it just reinforces that i have to stick with my 20%.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 19, 2020 7:30:23 GMT -5
My opinion is somewhere between that of King Kodiak and the Undertaker. Personally, there are a few ways a large 1500 pound bear can take down a giraffe. List: - While it is sleeping. Girraffes are more vulnerable to lions when sleeping lying down. A huge bear can take down a sleeping girrafe lying down by attacking its head or neck or use physical strength to pull it down.
- A large male bear can attack a girrafe from behind while it is awake by pulling it down. Lone male lions have taken down girraffes by leaping on their backs which is impressive but is is not an easy fight as they lack the physical strength of a 1500 pound bear.
- Attacking a girrafe while it bends its neck to drink and spreads its legs - another vulnerable position.
A girrafe overall is a force to be reackon with and not to be messed with.
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Giraffe
Aug 19, 2020 7:39:35 GMT -5
Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 19, 2020 7:39:35 GMT -5
A 600 pound brown bear is definately larger and stronger than an African lion but it does not possess the agility to jump as high. It can take down a girrafe only when it is sleeping (lying down) or when it is drinking. It will prey mainly on the calves should the two live in the same habitat (which they obviously don't).
A large male kodiak and polar bear will have a better chance in taking down the tall girraffe.
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Giraffe
Aug 19, 2020 12:01:40 GMT -5
Post by brobear on Aug 19, 2020 12:01:40 GMT -5
A 600 pound brown bear is definately larger and stronger than an African lion but it does not possess the agility to jump as high. It can take down a girrafe only when it is sleeping (lying down) or when it is drinking. It will prey mainly on the calves should the two live in the same habitat (which they obviously don't). A large male kodiak and polar bear will have a better chance in taking down the tall girraffe. I posted 600 pounds as a minimum weight.
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Post by tom on Aug 19, 2020 13:52:17 GMT -5
I actually think that a 1500lbs Kodiak bear has a higher than 50% chance of defeating a giraffe in a face-off. The giraffe's only weapons are its slender legs and once the Kodiak gets a good hold in, he eventually has an excellent chance of delivering a bonebreaking attack which would eventually lead us to a falling giraffe; that's just my opinion. That's an interesting viewpoint. This Kodiak may not know the dangers yet on the deadly kick of a giraffe. The question really is would a bull Giraffe even stick around long enough for that to happen? Giraffes can run at a pretty good clip, even for Lions. For your scenario it would mean the Bear would have to somehow ambush the Giraffe. and we know they not known for their stellar ambush skills when compared to Lions. So I guess it depends whether this is a standoff scenario or Bears predating on a giraffe in a true life wild encounter.
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Giraffe
Aug 19, 2020 17:49:07 GMT -5
Post by brobear on Aug 19, 2020 17:49:07 GMT -5
Quote: Giraffes can run at a pretty good clip, even for Lions. *For this reason, lions have learned to herd the giraffe towards an area of rough ground. Usually a rocky place, where he has bad footing. Of course, in reality, no bear is about to ambush something that looks down on him from 18 to 20 foot above. The Disney song, "The Bare Necessities" fits the bear's lifestyle perfectly. He loves to eat but prefers an easy meal.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 31, 2020 1:27:27 GMT -5
A giraffe has kicks that can actually cause great damage.
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Post by King Kodiak on Aug 31, 2020 8:37:43 GMT -5
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Post by theundertaker45 on Aug 31, 2020 8:41:16 GMT -5
That's some excellent footage King Kodiak; just look how easily the giraffe can knock down a lioness, however, once the male lion gets into play it is visibly harder and not that explosive anymore. A fairly large brown bear should be able to hang onto those legs without getting completely knocked over in my opinion.
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Post by King Kodiak on Aug 31, 2020 8:45:00 GMT -5
Yeah, that male lion was very lucky that last kick did not hit his skull, that would had been a knock out.
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Post by theundertaker45 on Aug 31, 2020 8:45:47 GMT -5
@king Kodiak
Absolutely, I thought the same. That last kick could have been devastating.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Sept 1, 2020 6:51:34 GMT -5
True. Lions have been recording giraffes one on one but only if they manage to jump on their back and even than it is rare. A lion brings down the giraffe by holding on and waiting for them to tire but do not possess the physical strength to grapple a girrafe to the ground which a huge male brown bear and polar bear has a much better chance in doing so despite not being able to jump as high.
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