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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Mar 29, 2024 6:38:49 GMT -5
Cat fanatics are stupid lol - they believe that a tiger can kill a polar bear because it can kill a gaur, so size doesn't matter. But they do not understand that fighting another predator and killing a hooved prey isn't the same thing. Polar bears also kill animals who tougher than gaurs (e.g. walrus). Bunch of coprophagists hahaha Tigers can kill bull gaurs alright. However, a male polar bear possesses flexible forearms that can repel the tiger and discourage the stripped cat from going for its throat. Once the tiger latches on to the throat or leaps on the back of a gaur, it is all over for the bovine. Bovines have stiff limbs. Walruses are tougher than gaurs as their necks are almost as thick as their bodies which consist of blubber and thick hide to protect their vitals. Male polar bears which are stronger than tigers find it hard to kill a walrus.
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Post by AnimalEnthusiast1789 on Mar 29, 2024 10:33:07 GMT -5
Cat fanatics are stupid lol - they believe that a tiger can kill a polar bear because it can kill a gaur, so size doesn't matter. But they do not understand that fighting another predator and killing a hooved prey isn't the same thing. Polar bears also kill animals who tougher than gaurs (e.g. walrus). Bunch of coprophagists hahaha Tigers can kill bull gaurs alright. However, a male polar bear possesses flexible forearms that can repel the tiger and discourage the stripped cat from going for its throat. Once the tiger latches on to the throat or leaps on the back of a gaur, it is all over for the bovine. Bovines have stiff limbs. Walruses are tougher than gaurs as their necks are almost as thick as their bodies which consist of blubber and thick hide to protect their vitals. Male polar bears which are stronger than tigers find it hard to kill a walrus. Yeah LOL.
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Post by AnimalEnthusiast1789 on Mar 30, 2024 12:21:39 GMT -5
brobear OldGreenGrolar arctozillaIt's clear a Foxe Basin Polar Bear is so big for any Tiger it's so unfair. Let me reduce the bear's size to be around half a Foxe Basin Polar Bear's to make it fair, so that will now mean it'll not be one-sided, it'll be a MUCH better fight. Still we can try 290KG Grizzly VS 205KG Tiger. For me the bear still wins 7.4/10. It has an entire 85KG weight advantage. Now while this isn't a mismatch it's not really a very close fight ( or a 50/50 ), it's more like the bear winning with mid - high diff. Still it's not a mismatch, just not a 50/50. However, at similar weights i'd consider it a 50/50, and for a good example we can try 215KG bear VS 205KG Tiger. Now this is a very close fight, and as of right i havent thought much about it. When it comes to Felids VS Ursids at parity my view does change everytime, but i'm sure it's a close 50/50.
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Post by theundertaker45 on Mar 30, 2024 15:35:06 GMT -5
Presa Canario and Striped Hyena
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Mar 30, 2024 21:37:33 GMT -5
brobear OldGreenGrolar arctozillaIt's clear a Foxe Basin Polar Bear is so big for any Tiger it's so unfair. Let me reduce the bear's size to be around half a Foxe Basin Polar Bear's to make it fair, so that will now mean it'll not be one-sided, it'll be a MUCH better fight. Still we can try 290KG Grizzly VS 205KG Tiger. For me the bear still wins 7.4/10. It has an entire 85KG weight advantage. Now while this isn't a mismatch it's not really a very close fight ( or a 50/50 ), it's more like the bear winning with mid - high diff. Still it's not a mismatch, just not a 50/50. However, at similar weights i'd consider it a 50/50, and for a good example we can try 215KG bear VS 205KG Tiger. Now this is a very close fight, and as of right i havent thought much about it. When it comes to Felids VS Ursids at parity my view does change everytime, but i'm sure it's a close 50/50. Even a male polar bear from Svalbard will be too much for any tiger. If we half the weight of a male polar bear from Foxe Basin, we will have a female and in this case, the Siberian tiger will have a much bigger chance. The male Ussuri brown bear has a 7/10 chance to beat a male Amur tiger in my opinion at average weights, 631 pounds vs 430 pounds. However, 30% is a high chance of death and not a total mismatch in my opinion. Weight parity is debatable.
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Post by AnimalEnthusiast1789 on Mar 31, 2024 7:55:59 GMT -5
brobear OldGreenGrolar arctozilla It's clear a Foxe Basin Polar Bear is so big for any Tiger it's so unfair. Let me reduce the bear's size to be around half a Foxe Basin Polar Bear's to make it fair, so that will now mean it'll not be one-sided, it'll be a MUCH better fight. Still we can try 290KG Grizzly VS 205KG Tiger. For me the bear still wins 7.4/10. It has an entire 85KG weight advantage. Now while this isn't a mismatch it's not really a very close fight ( or a 50/50 ), it's more like the bear winning with mid - high diff. Still it's not a mismatch, just not a 50/50. However, at similar weights i'd consider it a 50/50, and for a good example we can try 215KG bear VS 205KG Tiger. Now this is a very close fight, and as of right i havent thought much about it. When it comes to Felids VS Ursids at parity my view does change everytime, but i'm sure it's a close 50/50. Even a male polar bear from Svalbard will be too much for any tiger. If we half the weight of a male polar bear from Foxe Basin, we will have a female and in this case, the Siberian tiger will have a much bigger chance. The male Ussuri brown bear has a 7/10 chance to beat a male Amur tiger in my opinion at average weights, 631 pounds vs 430 pounds. However, 30% is a high chance of death and not a total mismatch in my opinion. Weight parity is debatable. Yeah a Svalbard Polar Bear is enough. It's much heavier than any Tiger LOLLLL.
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Post by AnimalEnthusiast1789 on Mar 31, 2024 7:57:46 GMT -5
For me a male Ussuri Brown Bear beats a Siberian Tiger around the same percentage as you think, like 6 - 7/10. 6/10 translates to high diff, and 7/10 translates to mid - high diff.
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Post by AnimalEnthusiast1789 on Mar 31, 2024 7:59:48 GMT -5
OldGreenGrolarAlso, i'm actually having fun talking to a fellow animal enthusiast like you Lol. It's fun af.
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Post by AnimalEnthusiast1789 on Mar 31, 2024 8:12:23 GMT -5
Length wise the Foxe Basin Polar Bear dwarfs the Siberian Tiger. Should height wise too. Plus in terms of weight Foxe Basin Polar Bears average 500 - 600KG. Siberian Tigers are only 180 - 206KG. This fight is a mismatch. Even a Svalbard Polar Bear which averages ~380KG has 174 - 200KG on the Tiger. Let alone a Foxe Basin monster. This fight is an easy win for the bear.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Apr 2, 2024 2:37:45 GMT -5
OldGreenGrolarAlso, i'm actually having fun talking to a fellow animal enthusiast like you Lol. It's fun af. In real life?
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Post by AnimalEnthusiast1789 on Apr 2, 2024 6:41:23 GMT -5
OldGreenGrolar Also, i'm actually having fun talking to a fellow animal enthusiast like you Lol. It's fun af. In real life? Nah i mean on the internet LOL.
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Post by AnimalEnthusiast1789 on Apr 7, 2024 12:25:56 GMT -5
Montezuma brobear OldGreenGrolar Siberian Tigers generally avoid Ussuri Brown Bears, the same bears which average 240 - 286KG / 530 - 631 pounds. Surely, it would sh#t if it saw a Polar Bear LMAO!!!!
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Post by Montezuma on Apr 7, 2024 15:06:25 GMT -5
Montezuma brobear OldGreenGrolar Siberian Tigers generally avoid Ussuri Brown Bears, the same bears which average 240 - 286KG / 530 - 631 pounds. Surely, it would Crap if it saw a Polar Bear LMAO!!!! Basically that's quite natural for the tiger. Cougars avoid brown bears and black bears, leopards avoid sloth bears and black bears, tigers avoid sloth bears and sun bears, cave lion avoided cave bears, American lions and sabertooth cats avoided short faced bears, lynx avoid bears; in all these felid-ursid relations, the smaller cat predominantly avoid larger bears so would a tiger avoid a larger brown bear? That's a question of logic and reason. Isn't the tiger like the cougar or leopard a cat? Or isn't the brown bear like black bear or sloth bear a bear? That's obvious.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Apr 8, 2024 6:59:01 GMT -5
Montezuma brobear OldGreenGrolar Siberian Tigers generally avoid Ussuri Brown Bears, the same bears which average 240 - 286KG / 530 - 631 pounds. Surely, it would sh#t if it saw a Polar Bear LMAO!!!! It would avoid the much larger male polar bear.
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Post by AnimalEnthusiast1789 on Apr 8, 2024 12:41:26 GMT -5
Montezuma brobear OldGreenGrolar Siberian Tigers generally avoid Ussuri Brown Bears, the same bears which average 240 - 286KG / 530 - 631 pounds. Surely, it would sh#t if it saw a Polar Bear LMAO!!!! It would avoid the much larger male polar bear. The smallest Polar Bear population is already 380KG on average with the overall average being 454 - 473KG, and a Foxe Basin Polar Bear is 500 - 600KG. This is a mismatch LMAO, not close at all.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Apr 8, 2024 14:14:08 GMT -5
It would avoid the much larger male polar bear. The smallest Polar Bear population is already 380KG on average with the overall average being 454 - 473KG, and a Foxe Basin Polar Bear is 500 - 600KG. This is a mismatch LMAO, not close at all. Let's move on to a different topic . How about posting some virtual comparisons on birds?
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Post by AnimalEnthusiast1789 on Apr 8, 2024 20:30:02 GMT -5
The smallest Polar Bear population is already 380KG on average with the overall average being 454 - 473KG, and a Foxe Basin Polar Bear is 500 - 600KG. This is a mismatch LMAO, not close at all. Let's move on to a different topic . How about posting some virtual comparisons on birds? LOL alright.
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Post by yz on May 2, 2024 9:07:37 GMT -5
Woolly Mammoth VS Megatherium
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