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Post by brobear on Apr 8, 2019 1:49:51 GMT -5
We all here know that bears are smarter than big cats. I put the tiger above the ion when it comes to smarts. I remember watching a animal experts say out his own mouth that tigers are smarter than lions. Seem like lions are pretty dumb. There was a series on Animal Planet where three different naturalists were studying a particular pride of lions, a leopard, and a family of cheetahs. On one unforgettable episode, there was this big male lion with a small carcass. At a rather short distance away was another carcass. The naturalist told about how horrifically hot it was that day. Not far off was a patch of trees and some shade. The lion could not enjoy one carcass for running to the other to chase off the jackals. Back and forth the lion would dart from carcass to carcass in the hot sun, trying to keep the jackals off of them. He could have carried both carcasses into the shade. The naturalist commented, "lions are not known for their intelligence."
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Post by BruteStrength on Apr 8, 2019 1:54:05 GMT -5
I think I seen the same video that you're referring too. I agree after doing my research I also think lions are not as smart as tigers too. Many sources confirmed this.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 1:57:30 GMT -5
Lions do not drag their food away as they have no natural enemies in their habitat. Even a pack of hyenas fear approaching a male lion as they do not want to lose members in their pack. The jackals are able to use their agility to nip at lions and even when it is carrying food.
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Post by brobear on Apr 28, 2019 23:50:18 GMT -5
We all here know that bears are smarter than big cats. I put the tiger above the ion when it comes to smarts. I remember watching a animal experts say out his own mouth that tigers are smarter than lions. Seem like lions are pretty dumb. There was a series on Animal Planet where three different naturalists were studying a particular pride of lions, a leopard, and a family of cheetahs. On one unforgettable episode, there was this big male lion with a small carcass. At a rather short distance away was another carcass. The naturalist told about how horrifically hot it was that day. Not far off was a patch of trees and some shade. The lion could not enjoy one carcass for running to the other to chase off the jackals. Back and forth the lion would dart from carcass to carcass in the hot sun, trying to keep the jackals off of them. He could have carried both carcasses into the shade. The naturalist commented, "lions are not known for their intelligence." OldBlueOne says: Lions do not drag their food away as they have no natural enemies in their habitat. Even a pack of hyenas fear approaching a male lion as they do not want to lose members in their pack. The jackals are able to use their agility to nip at lions and even when it is carrying food. I am not referring to the lions dragging the food away; but rather carrying one carcass to the other and having both together instead of running back-and-forth; and perhaps even having both carcasses in the shade.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 8:52:36 GMT -5
There was a series on Animal Planet where three different naturalists were studying a particular pride of lions, a leopard, and a family of cheetahs. On one unforgettable episode, there was this big male lion with a small carcass. At a rather short distance away was another carcass. The naturalist told about how horrifically hot it was that day. Not far off was a patch of trees and some shade. The lion could not enjoy one carcass for running to the other to chase off the jackals. Back and forth the lion would dart from carcass to carcass in the hot sun, trying to keep the jackals off of them. He could have carried both carcasses into the shade. The naturalist commented, "lions are not known for their intelligence." OldBlueOne says: Lions do not drag their food away as they have no natural enemies in their habitat. Even a pack of hyenas fear approaching a male lion as they do not want to lose members in their pack. The jackals are able to use their agility to nip at lions and even when it is carrying food. I am not referring to the lions dragging the food away; but rather carrying one carcass to the other and having both together instead of running back-and-forth; and perhaps even having both carcasses in the shade. No worries. Please forgive me for misunderstanding you.
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Post by brobear on Oct 28, 2019 4:56:42 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Oct 30, 2019 16:07:45 GMT -5
I list the average horse in section D. However, not every individual animal is average. Here is one incredibly smart horse: Beautiful Jim Key by Miriam Rivas available on Amazon.
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Post by brobear on Jan 2, 2020 6:46:11 GMT -5
Science has yet to discover a method of accurately measuring intelligence. Also, there are different kinds of intelligence. So, to narrow this problem, we will measure intelligence here according to memory and problem solving. We can only use our own judgement according to that which we have learned individually. Animals listed together are in no particular order. Here is my list: 1- Whales and Dolphins / Bears / Great Apes / Ravens and Crows / Elephants. 2- Monkeys, Wolves, Foxes, Spotted Hyena, Raccoons, Sea Lions. 3- Pigs, Cats, Mustelids, Skunks, Mongoose. 4- Horses, Hippopotamus, Rats. 5- Crocodiles, Sharks. *Note: I'm no biologist. On some of these I could be miles off.
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Post by brobear on Jan 2, 2020 7:24:15 GMT -5
*Note: on the first three posts on this topic I claim that the ravens and crows as well as whales and dolphins are smarter than bears. Fact: we learn and we grow. I now place ravens and crows, whales and dolphins, bears, elephants, and the great apes in a single ( box ). In what order these animals would rank in intelligence we do not yet know. Our good friend MountainL... made remarks about some of my posts do not coincide with some of my older posts. Of course not. I read. I watch nature documentaries. I keep my eyes and ears open for new information. Also, I will sometimes have an EPIPHANY ( a sudden, intuitive perception of or insight ). *I notice though that a fan-boy never changes.
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Post by brobear on Jan 5, 2021 15:58:29 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Jan 5, 2021 16:12:23 GMT -5
1- Whales and Dolphins / Bears / Great Apes / Corvus ( Ravens and Crows ) and the African Gray Parrot / Elephants. 2- Monkeys, Wolves, Foxes, Spotted Hyena, Raccoons, Sea Lions. 3- Pigs, Cats, Mustelids, Skunks, Mongoose. 4- Horses, Hippopotamus, Rats. 5- Crocodiles, Sharks. *#1 ( this list of 5 ) I'm sure of. However, I am unsure of the line-up arrangement of the 5. Also, I'm uncertain whether sea lions should be placed in #1 or #2. #2 - these are all very smart animals. But, not as smart as a bear. #3 - these animals are considered to be smart. But, not as smart as a dog. #4 - relatively smart. Talk to horse owners and opinions vary widely. #5- these cold-blooded predators are much smarter than expected by most people.
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Post by brobear on Jan 6, 2021 6:15:47 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Dec 5, 2022 6:09:14 GMT -5
Hey brobear, sorry for not being able to merge topics on time (had 2 finals to study for and a HARD final project), but now I am free of school responsibilities! My list goes like this, and each number rank might be multifaceted with multiple animals 1. Humans/dolphins/apes and primates/bears 2. Elephants/felines/corvids (maybe) 3. Pigs 4. Canines and etc... But still. intelligence is nearly impossible to quantify; it has many types and even those types are hard to quantify. I strongly disagree with this list from our long-missing admin Polar. Elephants have been proven to be among the world's smartest animals. That old saying, "an elephant never forgets" is pretty-much true. The memory of both the elephant and the bear surpass that of a human. Elephants mourn their dead; which I consider to be a high quality. And, he placed cats above the canines... My list goes like this: 1- cetaceans and corvis birds along with the African grey parrot. 2- great apes, elephants, and bears. 3- monkeys and pinnipeds. 4- canines, Suidae, raccoons, and hyenas. 5- cats, Mustelidae, horses. _____________________________________ There are numerous other intelligent animals which could be placed within these lists; rodents, octopus, etc. and the list could grow. Note that there is no scientific method of precisely measuring intelligence. Personally, I consider problem solving as being the truest form of intelligence, yet this too cannot be measured precisely. Also note; humans not in this contest.
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