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Post by brobear on Apr 22, 2017 5:30:20 GMT -5
My personal feelings: Sport hunting should be against the law - period. We are now living in the 21st Century! I can understand hunting for food or perhaps hunting a particular animal that is viciously attacking people. This does not include hunting down and killing a mother grizzly which has injured or killed someone because she believed that her cubs were threatened. And, just because you are willing to eat bear meat does not make it alright to kill them. I don't believe that anyone really relishes the taste of bear meat. The meat of wild animals is probably the most popular excuse ever for sport hunters to shoot and kill wild animals. Another popular excuse is population control. Science has proved that grizzly bears have no need for humans to maintain their numbers. The bears take care of that themselves. A grizzly does not enjoy being crowded. Unlike us humans, grizzlies will never become overpopulated. The real reasons that people choose to hunt and kill bears is two-fold: fear and ego. Because of their size and strength, bears are greatly feared by most people. Sport hunters want to shoot them ( with a weapon that would drop a T-rex ) from a distance because, in their minds, they believe this will make them manly and they believe that they will in turn be viewed as a hero. I have never known a sport hunter without an over-bloated ego. That guy who walks through grizzly infested forests with only a camera and a can of bear spray is truly the brave one - the real man. Take away the sport hunter's rifle and you find a 40-year-old quivering little boy lost in the woods.
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Post by brobear on Apr 22, 2017 5:33:29 GMT -5
www.nps.gov/yell/learn/nature/bearesa.htm Grizzly Bears & the Endangered Species Act Grizzly bears have been in the news quite a bit lately because the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is proposing to remove them from protection within the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem (GYE) under the Endangered Species Act (called delisting) . Grizzly bears were designated, or listed, as threatened with extinction in 1975. Various agencies and stakeholder groups hold differing opinions about the status of the population and how it should be managed in the future. We'd like to share our thoughts about grizzly bears and their conservation. Update: On December 14, the Interagency Grizzly Bear Committee (IGBC) voted to accept the Conservation Strategy that will be used to manage bears after delisting if/when the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service moves forward with a final rule. 1. Grizzlies have made a remarkable recovery. The growth and expansion of the grizzly bear population in the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem is a remarkable conservation success story. The population has grown from 136 in 1975 to about 700 today. Scientists think the Yellowstone area population is recovered and may have reached its capacity for resident grizzlies. Efforts to reduce conflicts with people and preserve habitat for dispersal and, eventually, connectivity with other populations outside of the GYE will be essential for further restoration. 2. The decision to delist is made by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is the federal agency that administers the Endangered Species Act. They make all decisions about listing and delisting in consultation with other agencies, tribes, states, and the public. The National Park Service will review any future proposed delisting rule and accompanying conservation strategy and provide comments. 3. Delisting means bear hunting may resume outside national parks pursuant to state management plans. If and when bears are delisted, the states of Montana, Idaho, and Wyoming may manage bear hunts as they do with other wildlife species like deer, elk, wolves, and pronghorn. Hunting will remain prohibited inside Yellowstone and Grand Teton National Parks. The National Park Service has requested to be included in future meetings with the states regarding where and how hunting will occur. We've also asked the states to focus hunting away from park boundaries and into areas with high levels of human-bear conflicts. 4. Management of bears will not change in the National Parks. The conservation and management of grizzly bears will not change in Yellowstone and Grand Teton regardless of whether grizzly bears in the GYE are delisted. We will continue to follow our existing Bear Management Plans and maintain our long-term monitoring program. We value grizzlies as a dominant species in the ecosystem—and one that offers amazing wildlife viewing opportunities. Millions of people visit the park with the intention of seeing bears and connecting with the wildness of nature. Wildlife watching also brings economic benefits worth tens of millions of dollars to the region. We are proud that Yellowstone and Grand Teton National Parks will continue to be the heart of the grizzly population keeping this magnificent species in the wild. 5. Reducing conflicts with people is the key to grizzly conservation. Employing best practices for safety in bear country doesn't just protect people, but the welfare of animals as well. When bears kill people or damage property, bears lose. If you care about grizzly bears, learn how to share the landscape with them responsibly at www.nps.gov/yell/planyourvisit/bearsafety.htm.
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Post by tom on Mar 7, 2018 12:36:57 GMT -5
5. Reducing conflicts with people is the key to grizzly conservation. Employing best practices for safety in bear country doesn't just protect people, but the welfare of animals as well. When bears kill people or damage property, bears lose. If you care about grizzly bears, learn how to share the landscape with them responsibly at www.nps.gov/yell/planyourvisit/bearsafety.htm. A Quote: Grizzly bears are majestic symbols of the wild. Bears live in and use a variety of habitat types, playing important roles in each one. This makes them an “umbrella species,” meaning that when we protect them and their habitat we also protect many species.
No truer words could be spoken !!
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Post by brobear on Mar 8, 2018 4:51:19 GMT -5
I read an article by a field-biologist who studies bears. He said that regardless that the biggest excuse hunters have of killing grizzlies is bear population control, it isn't necessary. Grizzlies take care of their own population problems; no help needed. If left alone, the strongest bears survive to reproduce. The biggest strongest bears are the ones that hunters wish to kill. I hate this topic.
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Post by brobear on Mar 11, 2018 11:19:37 GMT -5
www.grizzlytimes.org/single-post/2018/01/22/Wyoming-Thugs-Greenlight-Grizzly-Bear-Trophy-Hunts Consequences of Hunting Yellowstone’s Grizzlies Scientists know a lot about the negative and often unintended consequences of hunting grizzly bears. Their findings are consistent no matter where research on bear hunting has been conducted -- Canada, Sweden, Romania or in the US. Their major conclusion: hunting grizzlies often paradoxically increases conflicts with people and livestock. The reason is that trophy hunting is biased towards killing large male grizzlies. Hunting large males disrupts the social order of bear populations, almost invariably resulting in more cub-killing by males, disruption of foraging by females, as well as unexpected and problematic population declines (see this paper). In the case of Yellowstone, the hunt would target male grizzlies, while prohibiting the hunting of females with young. (Of course, grizzly bear hunting is banned from Yellowstone and Grand Teton Parks). Paradoxically, hunting will likely exacerbate rather than ameliorate escalating depredation of livestock by grizzlies. Adolescent males, which are often the main depredators, tend to gravitate to areas where the dominant resident males have been killed by people. And, as with their human counterparts, adolescent male bears are notoriously prone to push human boundaries. A 2017 Memorandum of Agreement among Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho outlines the basic approach to hunting grizzly bears in Greater Yellowstone. Grizzly bear expert Dr. David Mattson submitted a thorough critique of this MOA as part of two letters he submitted last year commenting on the Service’s draft delisting rule (see this blog). He concludes that an unanticipated consequence of the proposed hunt is the probable overkill of male grizzlies. Mattson showed that within 8 years after delisting, implementation of the MOA would lead, in theory, to the near extermination of male bears outside the National Parks (link). By adding significant numbers of bear deaths to the currently excessive and unsustainable levels, hunting once again endanger Yellowstone’s grizzly bears. One reason often given for hunting grizzlies is that bears would thereby become warier and people would thus be safer. But there is no evidence to support this claim (see this blog). In contrast to more social animals such as wolves, grizzlies tend to be loners except during breeding season or when females have cubs by their side. Lone bears are more likely to take to the grave whatever lessons they could have learned from being shot at.
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Post by brobear on Mar 11, 2018 11:20:59 GMT -5
Killing Celebrity Grizzlies, Including Matron 399 Grizzlies that frequent roadsides will be especially vulnerable to the upcoming hunts. Females that range near highways typically see people, not as threats, but as allies against male bears. The famous Jackson-area matron, Number 399, is clearly more afraid of male bears that can kill cubs than she is of people. Females such as 399 have taken a gamble on people in their efforts to keep cubs safe from predatory males. Until now, people have been upholding their end of the bargain. And, Grand Teton Park has done a stellar job ensuring that visitors behave appropriately around roadside bears. This negotiated peace has helped Jackson’s rock star grizzlies flourish, while giving joy to countless park visitors and local residents. But the peace will be shattered when bear hunters take to the field. Grizzly 399 and other well-known well-loved bears den outside of National Parks on National Forest lands where they will be exposed to hunting. These bears will probably be among the first gunned down, whether out of convenience or maliciousness on the part of involved hunters and guides. Already some reprobate outfitters have threatened to kill Grizzly 399 (link), whose den is not too hard to find. In comments last year on the federal decision to remove federal protections for Yellowstone grizzlies (“delist”) and thereby allow hunting, many people raised concerns about the fate of Grizzly 399 and her family if grizzlies are hunted. In fact, more than 99% of the roughly 850,000 comments submitted on the draft delisting proposal opposed delisting and sport hunting bears (link). But US Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) and the States blew off the public to serve a minority of special interests, including NRA and Safari Club, as well as the agriculture and energy industries. They also ignored the Jackson Hole Chamber of Commerce, which passed a resolution opposing trophy hunting grizzly bears in Jackson Hole because of the economic value of these bears (link). There is no doubt that the economic engines currently driving communities around Yellowstone and Grand Teton Parks are no longer hunting or extractive industries such as logging and ranching, but tourism and in-migration to the region because of its clean air and water, and magnificent scenery and watchable wildlife. In fact, tourism generates over 680 million dollars annually in the local communities around Yellowstone Park (link). But the region’s politics do not yet reflect these facts.
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Post by brobear on Mar 11, 2018 11:22:10 GMT -5
Wyoming’s Thuggish Approach to Grizzlies, Other Large Carnivores Wyoming perfectly illustrates the stark contrast between the politics of yesteryear and the current reality that charismatic non-dead wildlife drives the region’s economy. Wyoming officials are unambiguously thuggish in their unreasoned hostility towards large carnivores generally and grizzly bears specifically (link). The etymology of the word “thug” is interesting and relevant here: the original “thags” were devotees of the goddess Kali who waylaid and murdered travelers in northern Indian up through the mid-1800’s, when they were suppressed by the British. Wyoming Game and Fish is a devotee of a different yet related ethos that has proven no less deadly to people and animals. It sails under the colors of domination, control, and a blatant contempt for civility, democratic principles, and anyone who gets in the way of profit and the ideology of exploitation as defined by ranchers, executives of energy corporations and the NRA/Safari Club. Hunters play a dominant role in wildlife management, partly because virtually all funding comes from sales of hunting and fishing licenses or from taxes levied on sales of arms and ammunition. Hunters tend to be fiercely protective of their privileged status, which has increasingly come under attack by those who are disenfranchised: women, urban dwellers, non-Caucasians, and the educated (link). In the case of grizzly bear management, we are talking about a minority of mostly rich, politically connected white guys who want to kill grizzlies to feed their ego, rid themselves of an inconvenience, or make an ideological point. Needless-to-say, such men do not see grizzlies as sentient beings deserving of compassion. They also tend to see—without scientific justification—grizzlies as competitors for opportunities to kill large herbivores with enlarged sex-linked organs; i.e., bull elk (link). So, the fewer bears, the better. Not surprisingly, Wyoming, along with Idaho and Montana, have barred the National Park Service (NPS) from participating in the processes of setting seasons for hunting grizzlies as a finger in the eye of the federal government and a symbolic middle finger to the NPS’ preservation philosophy. Over the last few years, NPS officials, including Yellowstone Superintendent Dan Wenk, have raised concerns about the adverse impact of grizzly bear hunting on park bears (link). As soon as the Trump administration took over, the Park Service was silenced, raising this question: who is more thuggish, Wyoming or Trump?
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Post by brobear on Mar 11, 2018 11:23:28 GMT -5
Hunting Grizzlies Because “We Hunt Everything Else in Wyoming” Last week, Wyoming Outfitters and Guides Association President Jeff Smith supported the State’s proposal to hunt grizzly bears, saying: “We are dang sure supportive of hunting them, because we hunt everything else in Wyoming (link).” Smith’s view is wholeheartedly endorsed by Wyoming Game and Fish (WGF) officials. In fact, a year ago, at a meeting of grizzly bear managers, WGF Director Scott Talbott said something similar: “We just need to get grizzly bears delisted so we can manage them like every other species in the state, with a hunting season.” Managing grizzlies like other Wyoming wildlife is, in fact, the problem. A case in point is the state’s management of wolves, which were delisted, for the third time, last year.
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Post by brobear on Mar 11, 2018 11:24:40 GMT -5
Throwing Wyoming Wolves Under the Bus: Next Up, Grizzlies Wyoming officials have designated wolves outside Grand Teton and Yellowstone Parks as varmints in over 90% of the state, allowing anybody to kill wolves by almost any means at any time. In 1995 and 1996 wolves were restored to Yellowstone, where they had been extirpated as a result of human persecution. The recovery of wolves in Yellowstone is considered one of the greatest conservation success stories of the century, that is, before wolves were turned over to the tender mercies of the states (see this paper by Scott Creel). In 2017, wolves were delisted in Wyoming after a drawn-out legal battle. Hunters killed 32 wolves last fall (link), on top of the 113 wolves killed because they were implicated in livestock conflicts (link), totaling nearly half of the wolf population in Wyoming. The State is well on its way to reducing the population to its target of 160 animals—a thuggish reprise of a thuggish and brutal past. Wyoming seems to be enacting a replay with grizzly bears. Officials in Wyoming, in fact, are leading the charge among northern Rocky Mountains states in a bid to reduce, not merely maintain, the number of grizzlies in the Yellowstone ecosystem. Killing grizzlies is the only activity that Wyoming commits to pursuing in its recently revised Wyoming Grizzly Bear plan. The laudable language in the plan about coexistence and reducing human-bear conflicts should not lend comfort, because there is no funding to support such efforts and no enforceable standards requiring the state to do anything to make peace with grizzlies (link). And, the state’s grizzly bear plan imitates its wolf plan in allowing a purge of all animals outside an artificially drawn boundary line.
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Post by brobear on Mar 11, 2018 11:25:12 GMT -5
Free Fire Zone for Grizzly Bears? Wyoming has, in fact, designated a veritable free fire zone for grizzlies outside the Demographic Monitoring Area (DMA). The DMA is a more-or-less arbitrarily delineated area within which bears will be counted during the next five years to gauge whether recovery targets are being met after delisting. This is a huge problem, because the DMA excludes a large portion of occupied grizzly bear habitat along with important habitats crucial to supporting grizzly bears in the wake of losing essential natural foods to the twin malignancies of climate warming and invasive species. Roughly 50% of the ecosystem’s whitebark pine, 90% of its cutthroat trout, and 70% of its elk have disappeared in just a few decades. (link).
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Post by King Kodiak on Oct 27, 2018 22:53:30 GMT -5
YEAHHHHH MAN!!! HAHAHAHAHA. GREAT NEWS HERE. “IF YOU LOOK FOR DEATH, YOU WILL FIND IT SOONER OR LATER” Oct, 6, 2018 Open Season: Two hunters killed in grizzly bear attacks reported in Wyoming and Alaska Two U.S. hunters recently met their grisly fates at the claws and fangs of ferocious grizzly bears. Wyoming hunting guide Mark Uptain, of Martin Outfitters in Jackson Hole, was mauled and killed by a grizzly bear on Sept. 14 in the Teton Wilderness. The same bear attacked Uptain's client, Corey Chubon of Florida, who was able to escape and go for help. Chuban had shot an elk with a bow and arrow on the guided hunt the previous day and the pair had recovered the animal the following day. They were field dressing the elk and preparing to pack the animal out when they were charged by two grizzlies. While both bears charged, only one bear attacked, according to initial reports from the Teton County Sheriff's Office. The second bear did not engage the men. When the attacking bear hit Uptain, Chubon scrambled for a Glock handgun that Uptain left with their gear a few yards away, but he couldn't get the handgun to fire. The bear then went for Chubon who tossed the gun to Uptain, but it evidently didn't make it to him. After attacking Chubon, the bear turned again, for Uptain. Chubon, with a lacerated leg, chest and arms, ran for his life, mounted one of their horses and rode for a high ridge where he was able to get phone service and call for help. A helicopter was dispatched to rescue Chubon and responders began to search for Uptain, whose body wasn't found until the following day. Uptain was discovered deceased on Sept. 15 at approximately 1:15 p.m. by Search & Rescue personnel. He leaves a wife and five children. Wyoming wildlife managers have since located and euthanized the two bears they believe were involved in the attack, near the border of Yellowstone and Grand Teton National Parks north of Jackson Hole. The fatal attack comes just weeks after a federal judge stopped Wyoming and Idaho state officials from holding grizzly bear hunts this month, deemed necessary to control the growing grizzly population. The bears were listed as endangered in the Lower 48 states in 1975 to protect their numbers, which were dwindling at that time. The populations recovered in the last four decades and last year the grizzlies were removed from the Endangered Species List, allowing the states to launch hunts. In my opinion, the judge who foolishly put a hold on the hunt while he considers whether or not it was appropriate to de-list the grizzlies, must think he knows more than wildlife biologists, scientists and managers. Some people ain't got a clue. "I can only imagine how horrific this (the bear attack) was," said Sy Gilliland, a hunting guide and spokesman for the grizzly hunting community. "You've got a bear population that's basically un-hunted, is an apex predator, and has no fear of humans." www.southcoasttoday.com/sports/20181006/open-season-two-hunters-killed-in-grizzly-bear-attacks-reported-in-wyoming-and-alaska?template=ampart
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Post by King Kodiak on Oct 28, 2018 18:04:07 GMT -5
Bear hunters say animal rights activists are threatening to hunt them Updated on Oct 26, 2018 at 06:32 PM EDT A pro-hunting group went public Friday with a claim that bear hunt opponents are making threats on social media. The N.J. Outdoor Alliance (NJOA) provided screenshots of several undated comments allegedly made on the Facebook page of the "BEAR Group," which advocates against the hunt. One comment included in a press release, in reference to hunters, states, "They need to get shot." Another alludes to giving hunters "a 30min head start before I come hunting." NJOA spokesman Cody McLaughlin denounced the purported comments as "violent political rhetoric and death threats," and said they "provide a glimpse into the very real world of radical extremism." No police report, though, had been filed as of 2 p.m. Friday, In response, an attorney for the BEAR Group sought to distance the organization from any threatening comments. "Our policy is to delete any comments that advocate violence on our Facebook page and remove those people who make those comments," said the attorney, Doris Lin. Lin added that bear hunt opponents have also faced threats, citing a 2014 incident in which a bear's severed paw was allegedly found in the front yard of a bear hunt protestor's home. "We ask NJOA to reject all violence against humans and animals, as we have," Lin said. NJOA is one of the three pro-hunting groups challenging in state court Gov. Phil Murphy's ban on using state land during the 2018 hunt. A hearing is expected sometime before the hunt resumes in December. The first, 6-day stage of the hunt concluded Oct. 13 with 139 bears being killed , down from 244 through the same timeframe in 2017. Four bear hunt opponents were arrested at a protest on the opening day of the hunt for disregarding police instructions. articles.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2018/10/social_media_comments_on_bear_hunt_drawing_scrutin.amp
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 1, 2018 5:58:17 GMT -5
Five Shots Over Three Days Needed To Kill Great Smoky Mountains Black Bear Share By Kurt Repanshek on October 29th, 2018 It took five shots, over a three-day period, to kill a black bear at Great Smoky Mountains National Park/Tennessee Wildlife Resources file photo Five shots over three days were needed to kill a young Great Smoky Mountains National Park black bear linked to a ginseng poacher who turned up dead in the park last month. But the necropsy that pinpointed the bullet wounds failed to reach a conclusion as to whether the 155-pound bear attacked and killed William Lee Hill, Jr., 30, of Louisville, Tenn., whose body was found September 11 in the woods about 2 miles north of Cades Cove and about a half-mile from the Rich Mountain Road. When searchers found his body, which had signs of being fed on by predators, they also encountered a black bear that was acting aggressively towards them. Since it wasn't known whether the bear had killed Hill or fed on his body, a decision was made to sedate the bear and place a GPS radio collar on it and let it go pending further information, park staff said at the time. The next day, park staff, in discussions with Superintendent Cassius Cash, decided to destroy the bear. While park staff announced on September 16 that the bear was killed that morning near where Hill's body was found, what they didn't say at the time that there had been an earlier attempt to shoot and kill the bear. Nor did they say the bear was shot to death, instead of being tranquilized and then put to death with a toxic cocktail of drugs. Great Smoky spokeswoman Dana Soehn, who was on temporary assignment in the Park Service's Atlanta regional office at the time of the incident, told the Traveler upon her return that "the biologists spent several days tracking the bear and were consistently challenged by weather, terrain, thick vegetation, and the elusive behavior of the bear. The bear was located on the second day of tracking in a thick stand of rhododendron, and a biologist did attempt to shoot it, but the shot was not lethal. Three days later, park staff successfully located and euthanized the bear via gunshot (four shots)." She was not sure whether park officials alerted visitors that there might be a wounded bear in the area. According to the necropsy (attached below), the four shots fired on September 16 hit the bear, estimated to be 3 years old, in the skull, base of the right ear, the neck, and the left hind leg. The skull shot did not penetrate the brain, but deflected off into the chest. The earlier shot apparently grazed the bear in the right shoulder, according to the pathologist. The bear did not seem in a weakened condition and desperate for food. Its teeth were in good shape, and its belly was "full" of acorn meat," noted the pathologist, who made no mention of human remains in the stomach. "There are no lesions to explain the thin body condition or abnormal behavior of this bear," concluded the pathologist, Dr. Linden E. Craig, who works at the University of Kentucky. On Monday the park spokeswoman, after discussing the incident Great Smoky Mountains National Park's wildlife biologist, said shooting a bear in the brain is considered to be a humane way to kill it under American Veterinary Medical Association guidelines. "Obviously, given our field situations with terrain and dense vegetation, it is very difficult to closely approach a bear and shoot it in the brain," said Soehn in an email. "This bear was shot four times, including one to the head that did not penetrate the brain, within a matter of seconds to kill it and end its life as quickly and humanely as possible, and therefore, within the scope of these guidelines and the recommendations provided by the NPS veterinarian." www.nationalparkstraveler.org/2018/10/five-shots-over-three-days-needed-kill-great-smoky-mountains-black-bear
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 15, 2018 7:20:43 GMT -5
Recovering hunter in Montana doesn't 'blame' grizzly bear for breaking arm By Associated Press Anders Broste plans to keep hunting after he fully recovers. Anders Broste plans to keep hunting after he fully recovers. (iStock) Continue Reading Below A Montana elk hunter who was attacked by a grizzly bear is recovering at a hospital. Anders Broste tells the Daily Inter Lake newspaper Monday that he thinks he surprised the bear Sunday morning. COLORADO HUNTER PLEADS GUILTY TO ILLEGAL HUNTS ON PUBLIC LANDS The 36-year-old who lives north of Columbia Falls says he was trying to get his gun off his shoulder and was backpedaling when he fell. He says the bear "was on me in seconds." The bear bit Broste's arm, breaking a bone. Fish, Wildlife and Parks investigators tell the Flathead Beacon newspaper that the bear dragged Broste by the ankle for 7 to 8 feet (just over 2 meters) before running away. www.foxnews.com/great-outdoors/recovering-hunter-in-montana-doest-blame-grizzly-bear-for-breaking-arm.amp
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 15, 2018 7:22:40 GMT -5
“He plans to keep hunting”
good, maybe the next time a bear will break his neck and leave him paralyzed.
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Post by brobear on Nov 15, 2018 7:49:19 GMT -5
“He plans to keep hunting” good, maybe the next time a bear will break his neck and leave him paralyzed. I am not hard-core against hunting - if he is hunting to put meat on the table and not to put a head on his wall. Edit and add: Recovering hunter in Montana doesn't 'blame' grizzly bear for breaking arm.
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 15, 2018 7:52:40 GMT -5
“He plans to keep hunting” good, maybe the next time a bear will break his neck and leave him paralyzed. I am not hard-core against hunting - if he is hunting to put meat on the table and not to put a head on his wall. Screw that. I could not care less if that guy eats or not. I guarantee you he can eat something else. Go to the supermarket. Anyways, the bears have a right to eat him and his family also.
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Post by brobear on Nov 15, 2018 7:54:50 GMT -5
Kodiak; are you a vegetarian?
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 15, 2018 8:27:15 GMT -5
Kodiak; are you a vegetarian? not at all, meat is my favorite food. I probably eat more meat than a tiger. I see where you coming from, i dont mind to eat cow meat, i just dont want bears in particular being killed for their meat. The other animals, i dont mind.
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Post by brobear on Nov 15, 2018 8:46:20 GMT -5
Kodiak; are you a vegetarian? not at all, meat is my favorite food. I probably eat more meat than a tiger. I see where you coming from, i dont mind to eat cow meat, i just dont want bears in particular being killed for their meat. The other animals, i dont mind. There is no excuse for killing a bear ( IMO ). Even those tagged as "trouble bears" as there are "bear rescue locations" and zoos - and other wild places ( S. Africa ).
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