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Post by BruteStrength on Mar 28, 2019 20:50:00 GMT -5
I never knew that Dale attacked the she bear by ambushed. So you think that at weight parity that bears will win 6/10? Well I pretty much agree except I say maybe 5/10.
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Post by King Kodiak on Mar 28, 2019 21:03:09 GMT -5
I never knew that Dale attacked the she bear by ambushed. So you think that at weight parity that bears will win 6/10? Well I pretty much agree except I say maybe 5/10. Yeah bro. Dale attacked by ambush, like tigers always do. Obviously the ambush failed and it turned into a face to face fight. Lasted 20 minutes. Well brobear also thinks its 5/10 at weight parity, i say its 6/10 in favour of the bear, so we are basically the same.
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Post by BruteStrength on Mar 28, 2019 21:19:10 GMT -5
Yes we basically all agree. I thought you would have favored the bear more at a weight parity. like 9/10 for example. But 6/10 I can agree with.
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Post by King Kodiak on Mar 28, 2019 21:27:33 GMT -5
Yes we basically all agree. I thought you would have favored the bear more at a weight parity. like 9/10 for example. But 6/10 I can agree with. No, i have always said that at weight parity its 6/10. If the bear has a 200 lb or more weight advantage, yes i have it at 8/9 out of 10.
lets not leave this topic cougar vs grizzly.
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Post by BruteStrength on Mar 28, 2019 21:33:26 GMT -5
Oh ok my bad for the misunderstanding. So let me get this straight a 200 pound cougar vs a 200 pound grizzly you back the grizzly 6/10? Is this correct?
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Post by King Kodiak on Mar 28, 2019 21:44:04 GMT -5
Oh ok my bad for the misunderstanding. So let me get this straight a 200 pound cougar vs a 200 pound grizzly you back the grizzly 6/10? Is this correct? Yeah thats right.
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Post by brobear on Mar 30, 2019 5:24:20 GMT -5
Oh ok my bad for the misunderstanding. So let me get this straight a 200 pound cougar vs a 200 pound grizzly you back the grizzly 6/10? Is this correct? Yeah thats right.200 pound mature male grizzly might be possible with: barren ground grizzly or Tibetan blue bear and pretty-much average for a Himalayan red bear.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 8:52:54 GMT -5
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Post by King Kodiak on Apr 14, 2019 23:15:43 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Apr 15, 2019 5:34:04 GMT -5
Video on reply #56: the cougar and the bear are both sub-adults. Coincidence? More likely a staged meeting by young animals in a wildlife sanctuary.
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Post by King Kodiak on Apr 19, 2019 8:15:42 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Apr 20, 2019 3:32:13 GMT -5
IMO which is based upon reading books and nature documentaries ( not online creations ) a fight between a mature bear of any species and a cougar is highly unlikely. At best, a fight between a cougar and an adult black bear is extremely rare ( if ever ). For a cougar to actually fight with a grizzly would entail some extreme unlikely circumstances. Cougar vs mature bear is a mismatch.
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Post by King Kodiak on Apr 20, 2019 8:41:53 GMT -5
IMO which is based upon reading books and nature documentaries ( not online creations ) a fight between a mature bear of any species and a cougar is highly unlikely. At best, a fight between a cougar and an adult black bear is extremely rare ( if ever ). For a cougar to actually fight with a grizzly would entail some extreme unlikely circumstances. Cougar vs mature bear is a mismatch. I definatly agree. Maybe a mother cougar defending her cubs, but thats about it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 17:48:42 GMT -5
The reason why this is even a topic of discussion is because numerous fan boys started hijacking and editing accounts of these animals and making it where the cougars somehow managed to overwhelm the bears. Sure a cougar can perhaps fight off a bear in an attempt to defend its cubs, and usually the bear just loses interest and doesn't want to risk unnecessary injury. Though weaker and smaller, a cougar could hurt a bear's nose. However if the bear really wants to kill the cougar or steal it's kill, the cougar gets trounced every time.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 9:39:20 GMT -5
From Warsaw.
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Post by King Kodiak on May 10, 2019 11:20:06 GMT -5
Yeah bro! That black bear slammed that cougar to the ground! Hell yeah buddy!
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Post by tom on May 10, 2019 18:32:55 GMT -5
That young cougar thought he was real tough until he met up with something that will stand and fight back and deliver a nasty blow. You could say this was a young Cougar and not a seasoned adult, but I do believe that even adults will back down when they realize they are over matched. To credit this small Black Bear when he realized that he was not going to escape the Cougar by climbing the tree, he did the exact opposite, he stood his ground and fought back with some tenacity. That tenacity is what changed the Cougars thinking.
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Post by King Kodiak on May 10, 2019 20:01:49 GMT -5
Yeah, looks to me like a small subadult black bear, they looked same size basically. Those were some hard blows by the bear also. By the way, it was so funny how the bear fell from that tree, lmao.
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Post by King Kodiak on Jun 23, 2019 21:30:17 GMT -5
COUGAR KILLS IN YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK IN 3 DIFFERENT TIME PERIODS. NOT EVEN A BEAR CUB WAS KILLED.Species composition of cougar-killed prey, including primary ungulate prey species and other prey across three research phases (phase I: 1987–1993; phase II: 1998–2004; and phase III: 2014–2019; sample sizes of kills detected are indicated in parentheses).www.nps.gov/yell/learn/nature/cougar.htm
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Jun 23, 2019 23:38:43 GMT -5
Its interesting that cougars will prey on elk and moose yet avoid even female black bears. It seems that it knows the difference between prey and a larger and more powerful competitor. It confirms even more why bears have a high success rate in raising cubs.
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