Men Built Like Bears

[Polar]

Try chunky MMA fighters like Tank Abbott or Mark Kerr back in the early-2000s. They are definitely built like bears. Igor Vovchanchyn was most bear like, in my opinion, almost literally square at a fit 205-pounds at 5'8". His forearms and wrist size is out of this world, you would have thought he was an elite armwrestler!

Denis Cyplenkov, a Russian Hulk-like arm wrestler, is definitely a bear. He just won against Devon Larratt (one of the best armwrestlers out there now) a month ago in Armfight 50. Larratt could not even budge Denis's left arm, and Larratt's best arm is the left! Denis's best arm is his right. A bear is sort-of like an impenetrable force if you do the analogy.

Even Fedor reminds me of a bear - will always have that good amount of fat on him, but is super quick and powerful.

[King Kodiak]

Tank abbott

[brobear]

Tank Abbott is absolutely a Bear Man.

[King Kodiak]

Dec 24, 2018 6:20:06 GMT -5 brobear said:

Tank Abbott is absolutely a Bear Man.

Yeah absolutely, even though his mma record sucks. He has 10 wins and 15 loses.

[brobear]

Dec 24, 2018 6:42:42 GMT -5 King Kodiak said:

Dec 24, 2018 6:20:06 GMT -5 brobear said:

Tank Abbott is absolutely a Bear Man.

Yeah absolutely, even though his mma record sucks. He has 10 wins and 15 loses.

The thing about a grizzly ( brown bear ).... he has both brains and brawn... as well as superior fighting ability.... the total package. 
Sounds to me like Tank Abbott should consider WWE.  

[King Kodiak]

He did, Tank Abbott was in wcw for sometime.

[brobear]

About fat. A couch-potato is not strong. Fat does not add strength, but it does offer stability to a muscular body. A weight-lifter has better balance if he is barrel-shaped rather than V-shaped. Of course, too much is unhealthy. But what is too much for a bear and what is too much for a man - or a big cat - is different. 
 
The inland grizzly - Stone Cold Steve Austin. 

[King Kodiak]

And what we do know is this: how many bears are actually obese and unhealthy? not many. The bear species is probably the animal that adapts better of having fat, i think the blue whale also. Bears get big and fat, but almost bever obese.

[brobear]

Dec 24, 2018 10:49:26 GMT -5 King Kodiak said:

And what we do know is this: how many bears are actually obese and unhealthy? not many. The bear species is probably the animal that adapts better of having fat, i think the blue whale also. Bears get big and fat, but almost bever obese.

Recently, I believe it was you who discovered something about a captive bear that was over-fed; likely on sweets. Zoo visitors were allowed to feed the bears. 

[King Kodiak]

Dec 24, 2018 11:38:24 GMT -5 brobear said:

Dec 24, 2018 10:49:26 GMT -5 King Kodiak said:

And what we do know is this: how many bears are actually obese and unhealthy? not many. The bear species is probably the animal that adapts better of having fat, i think the blue whale also. Bears get big and fat, but almost bever obese.

Recently, I believe it was you who discovered something about a captive bear that was over-fed; likely on sweets. Zoo visitors were allowed to feed the bears. 

Right, the bear was allowed to be fed, he was so obese that he hardly could walk. Still not many cases like that, much less in the wild. I am pretty sure fat content affects bears less than any other animal in the world.

[King Kodiak]

Muscles does not equal strength. Simple basic fact.



www.bodybuilding.com/fun/hale6.htm

[brobear]

www.quora.com/How-strong-are-bodybuilders-relative-to-olympic-weightlifters-or-powerlifters

How strong are bodybuilders relative to olympic weightlifters or powerlifters? 
 
If there is a powerlifting competition and a bodybuilder wants to jump in and compete, he will be crushed with all 3 lifts, however there are some strong bodybuilders. Those strong bodybuilders are mostly the trainers that used powerlifting to build a good foundation and then dabbled into bodybuilding and isolation training.

If there is a powerlifting competition, an Olympic Weightlifter has a good chance to even win in deadlifts and squats, but weaker in bench press. Bench press is generally not trained in Olympics weightlifting programming.

Olympic weightlifting is diametrically different iron game. We train for power and skills. We need strength, power and speed to compete. We train 2 main lifts. The Snatch, the clean & jerk.

To train these two explosive lifting practices, we use all variations of deadlifts and squats as assistant exercises. In fact we squat and deadlift 4 to 5 times a week during training cycles, but not as heavy as the powerlifters. To replace bench exercise we use the overhead press variations, leading to the Jerk phase of the lift. Olympic weightlifting uses super compound exercises, where you learn to treat your entire body as one muscle, explosively. 
 
Most competitive olympic weightlifters that are under 220 pound are very ripped. The super heavy weight lifters are the Giants. For example Behdad Salimi the Olympic Weightlifting champion is 6'7 near 2 meters and he weighs 380 pound. He can Snatch 215 and Clean jerk 250 kilo plus. There is no bodybuilder or powerlifer alive out there can possibly even attempt the lifts. Even national level trainers in USA can Snatch 160 kilo easy. You will never see a bodybuilder snatching or clean jerk in a commercial gym. Crossfit boxes are all geared for skill based lifts.

In USA most gyms are only geared for machines, cardio and basically catering to bodybuilder trainers. After all, bodybuilding is about isolation exercises, getting a good pump, cuting, balking, diets, fat burners, supplements, cardio with big focus on aesthetics.

Raw power and skills.

So If there is an Olympic weightlifting competition, neither the powerlifter nor the bodybuilders can even start to compete. They should sit and watch. 
 
To begin lifting the Snatch, say with just 135 pound bar, bodybuilder must successfully finish a minimum of 1 year training before attempting to snatch a loaded barbell. The same goes for the Cleans & Jerk.

Bodybuilding is all about show muscles and some strength, true athleticism takes the back seat to strength, power, mobility and agility.

Show muscle is the top priority for the bodybuilder.

So if there is a bodybuilding show, (okay we can call it competition) both powerlifters and Olympic Weightlifter are at the gym and not at the show to pose. We will be booed out off the stage. Lol.
 

[King Kodiak]

Yet another source here.

www.livestrong.com/article/436092-mass-vs-strength/

[King Kodiak]

Conclusion: bears are like powerlifters, big cats are like bodybuilders, this is all a basic fact. You can have all the muscles you want, has nothing to do with strength. Basic fact.

bears are stronger than big cats, even at parity.

[brobear]

The idea that the one with greater muscle mass is always the strongest was disproven at the old AVA. There is so much more involved. For one thing, the skeletal frame. Also, big cat fans brag that a cat can carry a heavier weight compared with his own body weight. And...?
Consider the old TV Western, Bonanza. I'll bet that Little Joe could lift more in comparison with his body weight than Hoss. Does this mean that Little Joe was stronger than Hoss?

[King Kodiak]

Of course it was disproven because as we can see, its a basic fact, its everywhere. Tiger can pull larger animals? A bear can pull even larger animals if it wanted to. Thicker stronger bones, heavier bones, more compact built. Even Peter said all this by the way.

[brobear]

Rusev, "The Bolgarian Lion" ( actually a bear-man ).

[King Kodiak]

Rusev

[brobear]

According to Panther/Vegeta, this man could not possibly be strong - he has fat content.
www.sports-reference.com/olympic...yev-1.html

Soviet weightlifter Vasily Alekseyev is usually considered the greatest super-heavyweight lifter in history. Alekseyev, who took up weightlifting at the age of 18, when starting to study at the Arkhangelsk State Technical University, was unbeatable from 1970 to 1978. In 1966, Alekseyev moved to Shakhty, Rostov and started to train under [Rudolf Plyukfelder], but did not rose to prominence until after 1968, when he developed his own unique training methods and started to train without a coach. During his career, Alekseyev won gold medals at the 1972 and 1976 Olympic Games and won eight successive gold medals at the World Championships (1970-1977), which equaled the record of Americans [John Davis] and [Tommy Kono]. He also won eight European titles (1970-1975, 1977, 1978). Domestically, Alekseyev won seven Soviet titles (1970-1976) and a bronze in 1968. He also won the Soviet Cup in 1970, 1972 and 1974. Between 1970 and 1977, Alekseyev set 80 super-heavyweight world records – 17 in the press, four in the snatch, 32 in the clean & jerk, and 27 in the total lift. He once stated that his goal was to set 100 world records and as Alekseyev received bonuses for each world record, he craftily broke each record by the smallest of margins, making it easier for him to break the record again in the future.

Alekseyev was finally defeated at the 1978 World Championships when he competed while injured and did not medal. After recovering from the injury, Alekseyev tried a comeback at the 1980 Olympic Games, but failed to make a successful lift in the snatch and then retired from competition for good. After retirement from competition, Alekseyev worked as a weightlifting coach in Shakhty. He was head coach of the Soviet national weightlifting team from 1990-92, and in 1992 he was also the head coach of the Unified Team’s Olympic weightlifting team. In 1993, Alekseyev was elected to the International Weightlifting Federation Hall of Fame. He was married to a woman aptly named Olimpiada and had two sons, Sergey, who is a procurer and Dmitry, a businessman who also did weightlifting in his youth, having placed fourth at the 1988 Soviet championships.

[King Kodiak]